User talk:Ellywa

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Note about my deletions

If you think I made a wrong decision about deletion of a file, please think about your motivation and ask for undeletion on COM:UNDELETE. Another admin will decide on the matter. It is appreciated if you ping me, so I can get new insights. Thanks Ellywa (talk) 15:59, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Arbre d'or

Would you mind expanding upon how this meets the French threshold of originality standard of "[brearing the] imprint of the personality of the author"? It seems to me that any artist who decided to cover this tree in gold leaf would end up with fundamentally the same work. Thanks. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:12, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Imho this relates to the basic question, "What is art?", especially "What is en:conceptual art?" and the copyright of the artist of such art forms. To give some other examples. Anybody could cover a skull with diamonds, but Damien Hirst made this into an object of art. (Fair use on En:WP, en:File:Hirst-Love-Of-God.jpg - the version on Commons should be deleted imho File:Damien Hirst's diamond-studded skull.jpg). Jeff Koons made multiple copies of balloon dogs. Anybody could do it, any ceramics firm could make these objects. (Fair use on en:wp en:File:Jeff Koons - Balloon Dog (Magenta).jpg). An example from my home country, the peanutbutter floor, by Wim.T.Schippers. Not on Commons, but there is an article about it: en:Pindakaasvloer. I cannot solve this dispute, but I'm convinced such artists, all such artists, have a copyright on their creation, and certainly in France or the US in case of no FOP. Ellywa (talk) 21:14, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't think those examples are really comparable. The skull is a naturally-formed object (just like the tree) but there is substantive creative input in the arrangement of diamonds on the skull. Koons decided what form his balloon dog should take. There is substantial creative texturing in the peanut butter floor. If I went out and spray painted a tree in my front yard with a single color, I wouldn't suddenly have a copyrightable work. The tree is a natural form and the painting of a single uniform color is not creative. IronGargoyle (talk) 03:05, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Ballonnen

Elly, wat maakt dat een foto van de Potsdamer Platz in Berlijn verwijderd moet worden, wegens/per COM:FOP USA. Groetjes Lidewij (talk) 12:35, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Ja, die niet natuurlijk. Doorgeprikt... ehh.. doorgehaald! Merci Lidewij. Groet van Ellywa (talk) 13:23, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Dank. Ik ben blij dat verwijdernominaties ook bij overleden personen worden geplaats. Kunnen sommige in de gatenhouden wat daar gebeurt. :-) Lidewij (talk) 13:59, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Oeps, heb ik dat op mijn geweten? Maar dat kan natuurlijk. Ellywa (talk) 20:07, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

DR Commons:Deletion requests/File:Drug and sex.png

Could i convince you to conclude some of the discussions in Category:AI-generation related deletion requests/pending? Trade (talk) 22:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

I am working from old to new.... today I closed some DR's from november 2022. I considered this one out of scope, not because it is AI generated. Newer DR'requests will come to my attention or another admin someday... Regards, Ellywa (talk) 22:27, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Understood. Could i get you to concluce File:Alice and Sparkle cover.jpg, Files uploaded by StuckInLagToad and Files uploaded by Benlisquare specifically? Trade (talk) 22:37, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Well, the first takes a lot of time to read all comments. This is complicated matter. Ellywa (talk) 22:42, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

There is no rush. Just if you have time to look at it at some point Trade (talk) 22:52, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

File

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1927_-_Lord_Mayor_Hugh_Lupton_(in_Mayoral_chains)_at_a_luncheon_in_Leeds_with_Lord_Harewood_(left).jpg The above file - after much helpful discussion - was deemed to be OK. I have returned it to 6th Lupton family page. Thanks for your help 175.38.42.62 07:36, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Well, Yann undeleted the file, while I decided it had to be deleted, regrettably. @Yann: could you please explain why you are convinced the file is in PD? It was made in 1927 and imho there is no evidence it was published at the time anonymously. I think it will in PD from 1927+121=2048. I think your decision should also be added as a remark to the deletion request, Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Srbernadette, because it now appears it was forgotten to delete the file after the nomination. Thanks, Ellywa (talk) 08:54, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

There is also no reason to believe it wasn't published anonymously at the time. For such old images, we require significant doubt that the file is under a copyright. There isn't such doubt. Yann (talk) 12:10, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Please see my response to this issue on the deletions page regarding this photo - I have done my best. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 03:44, 21 April 2023 (UTC)